Forget the artwork and check out the accompanying song and lyrics for the new release.
I think it's one of the funnier ones so far.
https://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html#80
ChrisRR 5 minutes ago [-]
Just as cringeworthy as the QT4 dance
rustyhancock 1 hours ago [-]
Is it a pun?
The Simps on AI
The Simpson AI?
And then the 3 eyes fish makes a reference to Blinky
“Back in my day we didn't have artificial intelligence, we had real stupidity - and we liked it.”
mehmetd46 3 hours ago [-]
Real stupidity is still available, you just have to opt in. Yesterday I spent an evening writing Game of Life in Prolog for no good reason, and it gave me 941 live cells instead of 18,885 because my neighbour rule counted diagonals twice. Finding that bug by hand was more fun than anything an agent did for me that day. The pointless tinkering didn't go away, we just have to choose it now.
somat 4 hours ago [-]
I suspect it is social commentary on the dangers of letting the machine do all your thinking for you.
Guestmodinfo 5 hours ago [-]
I really like OpenBSD. I have used it for years. I feel the folks there are very helpful and awesome but I also do not like that graphic.
somat 4 hours ago [-]
You are not supposed to, it is intended to represent(and probably is) a machine generated image.
I have not really formalized my thoughts on the matter, but it boils down to. It feels great to get the machine to generate a thing for you but it feels terrible to receive a thing from somebody that is machine generated.
The worse part is the paranoia, Now I am seeing "tells" of machine generated content, and it may or may not be. But I have already lost interest.
The real irony would be that it is a hand drawn image carefully animated to feel machine generated.
sroerick 4 hours ago [-]
Credit is given to yvaneht nioj and clanker
TheAmazingRace 1 hours ago [-]
Yeah. To me, I feel like Theo de Raadt is being a comedian here, and the joke probably went over some heads.
k310 2 hours ago [-]
I mainly don't like the self-destructive aspect. Even if it's a spoof.
Especially when I see all the self-destructive goings-on in the world, based on senselessly divisive beliefs or just the power-seeking that generates them to divide and conquer.
I once met Ken Bering, "The Wheelchair Guy" whose foundation provided wheelchairs for people who could not afford them. The wheels weren't spiked, nor were they like a Seinfeld episode, where George donates a cheap wheelchair with poor brakes that sends its occupant down a steep hill.
Oh well.
samtheprogram 4 hours ago [-]
To be fair, I'm reading it as satire of AI. So not liking it is kind of the point.
jart 4 hours ago [-]
They're just showing humility. Give them a break.
GalaxyNova 4 hours ago [-]
that's the point
enriquto 2 hours ago [-]
> I am not on board with the graphic, whatever the heck it is.
They are purposefully iconoclast with whatever aesthetics are "socially acceptable" for mainstream nerds. For example, their use of comic-sans in official presentations. Here they use ridiculous slop in front of an audience of conservative unix hackers. You can find it funny with the right mindset.
The upgrade mechanism from 7.9 to 8.0 is still gloriously simple, and exactly the same as it has been for many years :
ssh myopenbsdbox # log-in to your machine
doas sysupgrade # will log you out, go drink some coffee
ssh myopenbsdbox # log-in to the upgraded machine
doas sysmerge # (optional) solve merge conflicts of your cfg files
doas pkg_add -u # (optional) upgrade local packages
sidkshatriya 1 hours ago [-]
> The upgrade mechanism from 7.9 to 8.0 is still gloriously simple, and exactly the same as it has been for many years
The upgrade mechanism on a typical Linux distribution is _even more_ gloriously simple, and exactly the same as it has been for many years.
The false distinction between the OS packages and user local (/usr/local) packages during upgrade causes much unneeded complexity. FreeBSD is making this go away which is welcome.
But this is equivalent to syspatch && pkg_add -u , this does not upgrade the computer from one version of the OS to the next.
sidkshatriya 15 minutes ago [-]
For a rolling release like Arch Linux you just always use pacman -Syu.
But yes you are correct, if you want to upgrade a Ubuntu distribution like 26.04 you do need to issue a command like `sudo apt dist-upgrade` which is admittedly an additional command. But then you could run 26.04 for many years. In OpenBSD anytime the base system/kernel is upgraded for a security fix or point release you need to do a slightly more complex dance.
Perz1val 36 minutes ago [-]
I'm pretty sure it takes more to move debian 11 to debian 12 and Arch doesn't even have versions
nanolith 2 hours ago [-]
Don't forget: doas syspatch. They tend to find some minor issues rather quickly after release.
Since I maintain my own custom patch set under OpenBSD, this is also usually when I need to vendor in the new release and update all of my patches.
It's like a pelican on a bicycle, but with social commentary.
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weitzj 3 hours ago [-]
I would guess it is the pelican on a bicycle reimagined ;)
Cthulhu_ 2 hours ago [-]
And a reference to a meme of someone sticking a pipe into their own bike and complaining about someone else.
st_goliath 2 hours ago [-]
OpenLSD, bicycle day edition?
j3th9n 1 hours ago [-]
It is clearly AI generated and that’s the message.
Razengan 2 hours ago [-]
It's literally in the name
imwally 5 hours ago [-]
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IncRnd 4 hours ago [-]
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colesantiago 4 hours ago [-]
And so it begins.
SlopenBSD.
Disappointing OpenBSD is and all of software is descending into slop.
Don't care if it is satire or not.
sippingabonedry 4 hours ago [-]
Before they were anti-AI edgelords, they were anti-VM edgelords.
Now they ship their own hypervisor in the base system.
QwenGlazer9000 3 hours ago [-]
It's not that they were anti VM, they just didn't think it was a proper security boundary.
tosti 2 hours ago [-]
And they've been proven correct. Even the "secure" variety with hardware level encryption turned out to be vulnerable.
bentley 3 hours ago [-]
I don’t think the theme is “anti‐AI.” I think what it’s trying to express is something along the lines of “take responsibility for your code,” where one’s code is the code one unleashes upon the world.
But that’s just my interpretation.
gucci-on-fleek 4 hours ago [-]
Does the version number going from v7.X->v8.0 mean that this is a larger update than v7.8->v7.9, or does the numbering just automatically roll over to the next major version when it reaches vX.9?
synack 3 hours ago [-]
No, the major number has no special significance to OpenBSD. 8.0 is just what comes after 7.9.
himata4113 4 hours ago [-]
as linus torvalds puts it: big numbers confuse me, so the next kernel version will be 7.0
tosti 2 hours ago [-]
He ran out of fingers and toes to count on. (Wait, what comes after 19.19, or 20.19, 20.20, then what?)
creshal 1 hours ago [-]
By that point medicine will be sufficiently advanced that we can graft new fingers on him, obviously. That'll also make him more productive, given he's an emacs user.
Razengan 1 hours ago [-]
Did they ever have a Linux 6.9?
yonatan8070 1 hours ago [-]
Yes, all the way up to 6.19 in fact!
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hollowonepl 36 minutes ago [-]
Good job and much clearer release notes than the ones I was reading about recent Linux release by the way.. much more informative and better organised to understand the impact in practical terms. #BSD_hellyeah
nanolith 2 hours ago [-]
I've used OpenBSD as a laptop daily driver for nearly 20 years. It's small. It remains mostly consistent between updates. In fact, it's so stable that I barely notice changes when I upgrade until I go hunting for them.
The Lenovo laptop I use as my travel laptop and console display is a 2012. It still runs OpenBSD just fine.
idatum 3 hours ago [-]
I have a Lenovo laptop running OpenBSD 8.0.
What I really appreciate about it is I started with OpenBSD 7.6. Using sysupgrade, I went through every release (and syspatch) and just now successfully upgraded to 8.0. It still works great!
kombine 10 minutes ago [-]
Well, I've used Fedora since 2024 on my laptop and it went through four or five major upgrades, never had an issue.
stackghost 3 minutes ago [-]
>What I really appreciate about it is I started with OpenBSD 7.6. Using sysupgrade, I went through every release (and syspatch) and just now successfully upgraded to 8.0. It still works great!
This is table stakes. Debian has had this since, IIRC, 1999.
prmoustache 2 hours ago [-]
I like OpenBSD, but I don't think this is a specific reason to appreciate it as any decent OS these days has been upgradeable release upon release safely for more than 2 decades, regardless if it is a linux distro, an Open/Net/FreeBSD system, a macOS or Windows system.
asimovDev 1 hours ago [-]
I agree that it's great but as an anecdote, I have an arch linux laptop i upgrade 1-2 times a year and it still works too, been that way since 2019 so went through major kernel upgrades without a hitch. Only thing that ever broke were nvidia drivers sometimes because it's an shudders OPTIMUS laptop. Last time I updated it, vibe coding wasn't widespread yet so I am wondering if new package versions will finally kill it if I were to upgrade it now
somat 2 hours ago [-]
I have an old(mutters to self don't look at date then I will feel old... Oh god it's from 2012) lenovo laptop that is my daily driver for portable ops. I run openbsd on it and... well it's perfect. sleeps perfectly, radio works well, I understand the OS. I will be very sad when it dies.
I did just re do the heatsink compound, so hopefully it has many years left, but I worry about the fan.
zdw 4 hours ago [-]
In recent past releases there was a noticeable improvement to SMP related networking bits.
Does anyone have benchmarks between 8.0 and previous releases in that department?
ksec 2 hours ago [-]
Phoronix do test BSDs from time to time. But for different reasons I think OpenBSd missed twice. I hope to see the performance gap being close enough we can stop thinking it is very slow.
When I read the Changelog I had to check if it was April Fools day. Is this a real OpenBSD release? Feels early. Also, many of those changes don't sound like real OpenBSD changes.
Thank you. Was just wondering because the items in the Changelog look.... LLMish. Not something I'd have expected from OpenBSD. On the other hand, it looks like they've done a bunch of improvements I'd have assumed they'd done years ago. I wouldn't blame them.
kstrauser 3 hours ago [-]
Anyone managed to get this running on a 2018 (Intel) Mac Mini? I tried 7.8 or 7.9, I forget which, not long ago and was flummoxed.
jon128 3 hours ago [-]
Have you tried
http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/using.html
?
diskinsight 4 hours ago [-]
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jan_m_savage 3 hours ago [-]
like a virus, slop will infect the techsphere, and it will become a real pain in the bollocks to siftt thru the mountains of semi-slop just to get to the real, reliable and human-made stuff.
Razengan 1 hours ago [-]
> Reliable human-made stuff
My guy.......
reliablehuman 2 hours ago [-]
Reliable human stuff? Holy shit, I want whatever you are smoking.
https://www.openbsd.org/images/blowfishonbike-s.gif
The Simps on AI
The Simpson AI?
And then the 3 eyes fish makes a reference to Blinky
https://simpsons.fandom.com/wiki/Two_Cars_in_Every_Garage_an...
I have not really formalized my thoughts on the matter, but it boils down to. It feels great to get the machine to generate a thing for you but it feels terrible to receive a thing from somebody that is machine generated.
The worse part is the paranoia, Now I am seeing "tells" of machine generated content, and it may or may not be. But I have already lost interest.
The real irony would be that it is a hand drawn image carefully animated to feel machine generated.
Especially when I see all the self-destructive goings-on in the world, based on senselessly divisive beliefs or just the power-seeking that generates them to divide and conquer.
I once met Ken Bering, "The Wheelchair Guy" whose foundation provided wheelchairs for people who could not afford them. The wheels weren't spiked, nor were they like a Seinfeld episode, where George donates a cheap wheelchair with poor brakes that sends its occupant down a steep hill.
Oh well.
They are purposefully iconoclast with whatever aesthetics are "socially acceptable" for mainstream nerds. For example, their use of comic-sans in official presentations. Here they use ridiculous slop in front of an audience of conservative unix hackers. You can find it funny with the right mindset.
The upgrade mechanism from 7.9 to 8.0 is still gloriously simple, and exactly the same as it has been for many years :
The upgrade mechanism on a typical Linux distribution is _even more_ gloriously simple, and exactly the same as it has been for many years.
The false distinction between the OS packages and user local (/usr/local) packages during upgrade causes much unneeded complexity. FreeBSD is making this go away which is welcome.But yes you are correct, if you want to upgrade a Ubuntu distribution like 26.04 you do need to issue a command like `sudo apt dist-upgrade` which is admittedly an additional command. But then you could run 26.04 for many years. In OpenBSD anytime the base system/kernel is upgraded for a security fix or point release you need to do a slightly more complex dance.
Since I maintain my own custom patch set under OpenBSD, this is also usually when I need to vendor in the new release and update all of my patches.
it seems very much like social commentary.
I assume it's meant to represent the perspective of pro-AI people, but it's ambiguous.
Is the animation comically slow for anyone else?
https://www.openbsd.org/tshirts.html
SlopenBSD.
Disappointing OpenBSD is and all of software is descending into slop.
Don't care if it is satire or not.
Now they ship their own hypervisor in the base system.
But that’s just my interpretation.
The Lenovo laptop I use as my travel laptop and console display is a 2012. It still runs OpenBSD just fine.
What I really appreciate about it is I started with OpenBSD 7.6. Using sysupgrade, I went through every release (and syspatch) and just now successfully upgraded to 8.0. It still works great!
This is table stakes. Debian has had this since, IIRC, 1999.
I did just re do the heatsink compound, so hopefully it has many years left, but I worry about the fan.
Does anyone have benchmarks between 8.0 and previous releases in that department?
http://bluhm.genua.de/test.html
My guy.......